Baseball United charting a course for professionalism in the region, says Kash Shaikh

Baseball United founder Kash Shaikh (second left) credits the Dubai-based organization's progress to partnerships with some the games biggest names. (Supplied)
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Updated 30 August 2024
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Baseball United charting a course for professionalism in the region, says Kash Shaikh

  • Dubai-based organization’s founder, CEO and chairman spoke to Arab News about 3 signature events and potential for regional success
  • Teams from Saudi Arabia, UAE and Palestine will take part in the Arab Classic alongside India and Pakistan in November

DUBAI: At times, the dream of bringing professional baseball to the region must have seemed like a mirage in a desert.

The harder the man behind Dubai-based organization Baseball United tried, the more this vision seemed to fade.

But now, for Kash Shaikh, founder, chairman and CEO of Baseball United, three years of logistical challenges are almost over.

“I’m just really excited for the fans. I’m really proud of our team, grateful for the opportunity that after three years of working and grinding and building and pushing, and falling and failing and picking ourselves up, and still finding a way, that we’ve finally been able to chart a course and a path forward for professional baseball in the region,” said Shaikh.

He announced that Dubai would be the home for baseball with three “signature” events “that we have a vision for conducting every year, and hopefully growing and making bigger each year.”

The first of the three events is the Arab Classic, bringing together the biggest national teams from the region to compete in Dubai from Nov. 7 to 10, 2024.

The Baseball United Cup, with each of the current four franchises featuring professional players, follows from Feb. 22 to March 1, 2025.

Baseball United’s first full season, featuring the Mumbai Cobras, Karachi Monarchs, Arabia Wolves, Mid East Falcons, and a new, yet-to-be-announced Riyadh-based team, will then launch on Oct. 23, 2025.

“Our season, which is something that we’ve dreamed about for a long time and it sometimes didn’t seem possible, but thanks to the partners we have on the ground and just really the resilience of our team, we’ve been able to make it happen.”

In the three, often difficult years, what kept the dream alive for Shaikh was the potential he saw for baseball to grow in the Middle East and Asia.

“No doubt, I really believe that this region for sure is not only the future of sport, but it is the future for baseball. It has all the elements, all the ingredients that are needed to build a sport from the ground up, which is exactly what we’re doing.

“We’re creating the whole ecosystem, from the fields and facilities to the teams and the rosters to the equipment, the seating that’s needed, the broadcast partnerships, the sponsorship channels.”

Baseball United’s first event, the Dubai Showcase last November at the International Cricket Stadium, drew in crowds of almost 5,000 on each of its two days. The response from fans was overwhelmingly positive, said Shaikh.

“A marker of that potential is the response we’ve gotten from fans. You know, 4.7 out of 5 stars out of our showcase last year in terms of fan response.

“Thousands of people here in the UAE and Dubai messaging us saying that they believe in what we’re doing, they want to be a part of what we’re doing.”

The Arab Cup promises to attract even more fans from the Middle East with the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Palestine joining India and Pakistan.

“Right now we’ve actually had 12 teams from around the region asking us to participate. We’re planning to focus on eight,” Shaikh said.

“So the hardest cut I’m going to have to make is taking that 12 teams down to eight. You know, there’s a chance we may expand it. But even if we don’t, we’ll have eight teams that truly represent the breadth and depth of this region.”

Shaikh believes that one of the highlights will be the clash between India and Pakistan, as it is often in any sporting field. Others will bring Arab teams under the spotlight.

“You’ve got teams that are representing the UAE and Saudi Arabia as well,” he added. “They’ve never played in a national team format in history. Saudi’s federation is the newest baseball federation, just formed in 2019.

“They’ve never played an official national team match game before. And now they get to here in the region. So it’s going to be a really big deal.”

“We’ve already been getting a lot of messages from embassies from each of these countries wanting to participate, wanting to get their local fans out there.”

The Arab Classic will be adopting World Baseball Classic rules and a format that sees two groups of four competing, with the top two in each advancing to the semifinals.

The Dubai Showcase last season fell on the same weekend as the Formula One Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, but Shaikh said fans can expect even more this year.

“One thing that was very important to me and our team is that no matter what we do, we know this is a long-term play, but we’ve got to do something for the fans in 2024. That to me was the biggest factor to say, let’s host this in November.”

“(The Arab Classic) will be a little bit less than a year from our last event. It’s a great, almost ceremonial next step for the game. Now we get to do it with national teams representing some of the biggest countries here, so it’s going to be very exciting.”

On the Baseball United Cup with the Mumbai Cobras, Karachi Monarchs, Arabia Wolves and Mid East Falcons, he said: “These teams are full of some of the best professional baseball players in the world, former Yankees and Dodgers and Red Sox.”

“We drafted these teams about a year ago, but nobody has seen them in their full, kitted-out uniforms with their full teams on the field. It’s going to be historic in a lot of ways. It’s going to be a smaller format, a round-robin format, plus playoffs.”

A total of 10 games will be played across eight days in February, in many ways a dress rehearsal for the launch of Baseball United’s inaugural season later in the year.

“This is the big thing from the beginning,” he said. “The season gives me goosebumps, because it’s something we’ve been dreaming about. And trying to figure out, you know, what are the right number of franchises.”

“What we decided on is five franchises. Our first four, Mumbai, Karachi, Arabia, and Mid East, plus a new Riyadh franchise that we’ll announce in early 2025, which I’m very excited about.”

Each team will play 12 games, and then after the regular season, the top two will play in a three-game series, to crown the champions. “Overall, it’s going to be 33 games in 32 days here in Dubai, so it’s a huge sprint,” said Shaikh.

“It’s a crazy, ambitious undertaking for us. It’s funny, on one end, for baseball it’s not a lot of games because 12 games per team for baseball is really just a blink.

“I mean, baseball is typically played every day for eight, nine months out of the year. Major League Baseball teams play 162 games each. So 12 games is small, but we’re a small, growing league.

“We wanted to create the right footprint, and honestly, we wanted to learn how and if and when, and to what extent we can get folks here in Dubai to come out to support.”

The next big challenge according to Shaikh is to create a product that fans will return to repeatedly, as opposed to showing up for a once-a-year marquee event or weekend.

“If we can, there’s a huge, huge potential and a huge trajectory for this league, for the community, for young kids, for development, for the ecosystem,” he said.

“Think about how many jobs something like this creates, how many opportunities. When we talk about baseball, we’re talking about grounds crew, facilities, coaches, umpires, statisticians, scorekeepers, broadcasters, equipment managers.”

“There’s so much medical staff, nutrition staff. We’re really building the whole infrastructure from a whole economic perspective. So it’s much more than the bottom line for us.”

One of things exciting Shaikh most will be the release of the teams’ merchandise, which he calls “iconic” and a part of “Americana culture.”

“When people see the Arabia Wolves gear, Mumbai Cobras, that’s when fans’ passion really starts to come to life. That’s how I fell in love with baseball.”

Shaikh believes Baseball United now has the “highest pedigree of ownership group” in terms of on-field play, in all of professional sports.

“Right now we have 20 of the best baseball players in history who’ve invested in Baseball United, who are co-owners of Baseball United, who’ve not only put their money, but their time, their energy, their resources, their social media accounts behind what we’re doing,” he said.

“I mean, in the early days when we started, it gave us instant credibility. Today, as we continue to grow, it creates instant fanfare for us.”

“There’s no way we’d be where we are without those guys,” he added. “They bring over 300 years of Major League Baseball knowledge and game play into the organization. And it’s just a huge blessing for us to work with them.”

Shaikh highlighted that a big part of Baseball United’s philosophy is the interaction of players with fans. This was shown at the Showcase last November when both rosters took time to sign autographs and pose for photos with young fans.

The former players are also involved in promoting the game at grassroots level. “They threw out the first pitch at Dubai Little League,” said Shaikh.

“It’s incredible, that doesn’t happen. But because of Baseball United and because these legends were able to offer fans that type of experience."

 


Alcaraz gives Spain Davis Cup delight as Australia, US and Germany also qualify

Updated 14 September 2024
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Alcaraz gives Spain Davis Cup delight as Australia, US and Germany also qualify

  • Spain and Australia with two successes each have booked their ticket for the Final 8 in Malaga at the end of November
  • The US booked their ticket to final eight series with a 3-0 win over Slovakia in Zuhai earlier Friday, with Germany also advancing

PARIS: France crashed out of the Davis Cup Friday when world No. 3 Carlos Alcaraz beat Ugo Humbert 6-3, 6-3 in the second rubber in Valencia with a convincing display.

Earlier, the defeat of Arthur Fils to Roberto Bautista 2-6, 7-5, 6-3 put France 1-0 down and Humbert was unable to revive the French against a solid Alcaraz in front of a home crowd.

Since the reform of the Davis Cup in 2019, France has never managed to get beyond the group stage.

Spain and Australia with two successes each have booked their ticket for the Final 8 in Malaga at the end of November and will compete for the head of this group B on Sunday.

“It was the goal since the beginning of the week, to qualify for Malaga,” Alcqaraz said.

“I was really, really focused, I was on a really high level of tennis and it’s one of the best matches that I’ve played this year.

“Seeing my last month I needed this kind of match and I’m really happy with my performance today.”

The US booked their ticket to final eight series with a 3-0 win over Slovakia in Zuhai earlier Friday, with Germany also advancing.

Mackenzie McDonald beat Lukas Klein 6-4, 6-3 in the opening singles rubber before Brandon Nakashima eased past Jozef Kovalik 6-3, 6-3 to give the Americans an unassailable 2-0 lead.

Austin Krajicek and Rajeev Ram then teamed up in the doubles to battle past Klein and Norbert Gombos 6-7 (4/7), 7-6 (7/4), 10-1.

Bob Bryan’s US team, playing without top players including US Open runner-up Taylor Fritz and semifinalist Frances Tiafoe, also beat Chile 3-0 earlier this week.

The US victory meant Group C rivals Germany also qualified for the Final 8 which will be held in Malaga in Nov. 19-24.

Germany and the US will go head-to-head for top spot in their final group game on Saturday which will determine their seeding for Malaga.

Sixteen countries are competing in the group stage finals in four cities with the top two from each group advancing to the eight-team final.

“It means a lot,” said 40th-ranked Nakashima.

“To be able to be in this position right now, to be clinching that spot, it’s very important for us.”

The US, 32-times tournament winners, most recently in 2007, failed to progress out of the group stage finals last year after defeats to the Netherlands and Finland.

McDonald, ranked 149, has been returning from an injury-plagued season.

“I’m really proud of myself for performing well today and putting the team on the board,” he said.


A new era in Asian football begins Monday when the AFC Champions League Elite debuts

Updated 14 September 2024
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A new era in Asian football begins Monday when the AFC Champions League Elite debuts

  • Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Ahli are among the favorites to win next May’s final and reinforce the ambitions of the Saudi Pro League of becoming one of the best in the world
  • The Elite version replaced the AFC Champions League as the continent’s top tournament

The first edition of the AFC Champions League Elite begins Monday with stars such as Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar and Riyad Mahrez looking to lead their Saudi clubs to success in Asia.

Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal and Al-Ahli are among the favorites to win next May’s final and reinforce the ambitions of the Saudi Pro League (SPL) of becoming one of the best in the world.

In the summer transfer windows of 2023 and 2024, SPL clubs spent over $1 billion on transfers to bring top-level players from the big European leagues.

Al-Hilal midfielder Ruben Neves joined Al-Hilal in 2023 from Wolverhampton Wanderers of the English Premier League for a fee of around $60 million and has no doubt that the SPL has enough quality.

“I have said this a few times — if you compare my data from English football to Saudi football, I run even more, but with the difference that I run in 40 degrees (Celsius, 104 Fahrenheit),” Neves said after helping Portugal to a 2-1 Nations League win over Scotland on Tuesday when Ronaldo scored the winning goal.

“I am in good shape physically. Both Cristiano and I proved today that Saudi football has quality.”

Al-Hilal is the most successful team in Asia with four continental titles and starts its campaign against Al-Rayyan of Qatar. Ronaldo won five UEFA Champions Leagues but has yet to win a major trophy with Al-Nassr and he will face Iraq’s Al-Shorta while Mahrez and Al-Ahli hosts Persepolis of Iran in Jeddah.

As well as the big stars, also reinforcing the chances of the giants from Jeddah and Riyadh, is that from the quarterfinal stage on, all games will take place in Saudi Arabia.

There are bigger changes, however. The Elite version replaced the AFC Champions League as the continent’s top tournament.

The number of teams participating has reduced from 40 to 24. Instead of 10 groups of four, there are two groups of 12, divided into east and west geographic zones, with teams playing eight games with the top eight progressing to the second round.

In the east zone, China, South Korea and Japan all have the maximum allocation of three teams though Australia has only the Central Coast Mariners.

Clubs from the A-League have struggled in the Champions League in recent years but if the Mariners can succeed, there may be more places for Australian teams in the future.

“We know if we perform and we carry out our game plan and play our way, we know we can compete,” Central Coast head coach Mark Jackson said. “We’ve shown that. Whether we can compete consistently on that front, again with the size of squads these teams have, how they can travel because I’m sure these teams travel in a different way to how we travel.”

The Elite tournament has become more lucrative with the winner receiving $10 million in prize money, an increase from $4 million last season.


Nelly Korda leads Americans to a record-setting 6-2 margin on first day of Solheim Cup

Updated 14 September 2024
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Nelly Korda leads Americans to a record-setting 6-2 margin on first day of Solheim Cup

  • Korda has never won a Solheim Cup in three tries, but she put the US in a strong position to end that drought by winning the leadoff match of each session Friday 
  •  The US also led 6-2 in the inaugural event in 1990, when the first eight matches were played over two days

GAINESVILLE, Virginia: Nelly Korda danced at the urging of teammate Megan Khang as they walked off the first tee together at the Solheim Cup after a pep talk from former President Barack Obama. Then she let Khang raise her arms to pump up the crowd as they walked to the 12th green following another sterling shot from the world’s top-ranked player.

Korda has never won a Solheim Cup in three tries, but she put the US in a strong position to end that drought by winning the leadoff match of each session Friday while helping the Americans to a 6-2 lead over Europe at Robert Trent Jones Golf Club.

A Solheim Cup that began with an unforced error by organizers, who didn’t have enough shuttle buses to transport fans to the course in the early morning hours, concluded its first day with the largest single-day lead by either team.

The US also led 6-2 in the inaugural event in 1990, when the first eight matches were played over two days.

“We played opponents that are playing fantastic golf, that’s No. 1. Sometimes we almost invite them to play even better,” European captain Suzann Pettersen said. “At the same time, we have to face reality, and we have a massive job to do.”

In her better-ball match with Khang, Korda played 14 holes in 8 under and made two eagles on the back nine, the first after her 5-iron approach on the 480-yard, par-5 12th settled 2 feet away. Europe’s Georgia Hall conceded that putt, and Korda holed a 10-footer for eagle on No. 14 to close out a 6-and-4 victory over Hall and Leona Maguire.

A six-time winner on the LPGA Tour this year, including her second major championship, Korda came into the Solheim Cup with a 7-4-1 record. But Europe captured the trophy each time, winning in 2019 in Scotland and 2021 in Ohio before retaining the Cup last year with a draw in Spain. Neither side has captured the Cup four times in a row.

Korda can’t win it on her own — the US needs 14 1/2 points over three days — but she’s certainly a key figure for captain Stacy Lewis on a PGA Tour-tested course that favors power and appears to suit her eye. Korda won 16 holes in her matches, the most by one Solheim Cup player in a single day since 2015.

She knew she could play aggressively with the accurate Khang as her partner.

“When you have a teammate who’s so pure off the tee, you never have to worry. You just kind of send it,” Korda said. “So that was kind of the motto, is I was going to go first and send it.”

Lewis also got strong contributions from her two rookies, sending Lauren Coughlin and Sarah Schmelzel out for both sessions and watching them win three points. Coughlin and Rose Zhang beat Celine Boutier and Albane Valenzuela 3 and 2 in alternate shot, while Schmelzel and Lilia Vu topped Linn Grant and Carlota Ciganda by the same score. The rookies paired up for better ball and beat Emily Pedersen and Maja Stark 3 and 2.

“I don’t think, at least to me, it was a surprise that we played really well, because we’ve been doing it all year,” said Coughlin, a two-time winner this summer.

Zhang, winless in her debut last year, went 2-0 on Friday. She teamed in the afternoon with Andrea Lee, whose approach on the 14th grazed the cup — just missing an albatross — to close a 5-and-4 win over Grant and Charley Hull.

“Things went according to plan today,” Lewis said.

Meanwhile, Pettersen got nothing from her best two players. Boutier, the top-ranked European at No. 10 in the world, was rested after her morning loss, and No. 12 Hull went 0-2.

The matches began quietly under overcast skies, with half-empty grandstands surrounding the first tee when Europe’s Esther Henseleit struck the opening tee shot at 7:05 a.m. Fans complained they were stuck for hours with no access to restrooms while waiting for bus rides to the sprawling property about 40 miles west of Washington, D.C., prompting an apology from the LPGA Tour.

Teamed with Allizen Corpuz in the opening alternate-shot match, Korda was steady on the back nine while German rookie and Olympic silver medalist Henseleit faltered. The Americans won the 14th and 15th holes with pars and then closed out Henseleit and Hull 3 and 2 when Korda hit her approach to 5 feet on the par-3 16th.

Korda and Corpuz became the first American duo to win three straight alternate-shot matches after they went 2-0 in the format last year.

The grandstands were full when the afternoon matches began, and the crowds tried in vain to urge on Lexi Thompson in what’s likely her final Solheim Cup as a player. Thompson and Alison Lee lost their better-ball match 6 and 5 to the Swedish duo of Anna Nordqvist and Madelene Sagstrom, who wore matching bucket hats and had Sagstrom’s new husband, Jack Clarke, carrying Nordqvist’s bag.

Nordqvist, an assistant captain for Europe who is playing in her ninth Solheim Cup, made six birdies through 13 holes as the pair never trailed.

“I feel like I’ve been the wedding crasher lately. I crashed her wedding last week, and this week I’m crashing her and my caddie Jack’s honeymoon,” Nordqvist said. “We just had a lot of fun out there together.”


Unbeaten Duplantis reigns supreme, Alfred dominates Richardson

Updated 14 September 2024
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Unbeaten Duplantis reigns supreme, Alfred dominates Richardson

  • It was his 15th and final victory of a year in which he improved his own world record three times, up to 6.26 meters.
  • The opening session of the two-day finals of track and field’s elite circuit was high-octane affair, with a large percentage of some of the 82 medal winners from the Paris Oympics on show

BRUSSELS: Sweden’s undisputed pole vault king Armand Duplantis brought the curtain down on an unbeaten season with another fantastic victory in the Diamond League finals in Brussels on Friday.

It was his 15th and final victory of a year in which he improved his own world record three times, up to 6.26 meters.

The US-born Swede was again a world apart from the competition at the King Baudouin Stadium in cold conditions.

He vaulted only three times, at 5.62, 5.92 and 6.11m, the latter a new meeting record. Greece’s Emmanouil Karalis was second with 5.82m on countback from home favorite Ben Broeders.

“My legs felt terrible tonight and I’m just really tired,” admitted Duplantis, who was left ruing taking on hurdles star Karsten Warholm in a pre-event exhibition 100m race in Zurich last week.

“That took a lot more from my body that I expected. With 6.11 meter I got a good result, but the world record wasn’t meant to be tonight.”

Duplantis added: “Now it’s time to celebrate my beautiful season: I will drink some good Belgian beers tonight for sure!”

The opening session of the two-day finals of track and field’s elite circuit was high-octane affair, with a large percentage of some of the 82 medal winners from the Paris Oympics on show.

Olympic champion Julien Alfred scorched to victory in the 100m as US rival Sha’Carri Richardson finished well down the field.

It had been Richardson who triumphed in Zurich last week, edging Alfred at the line.

But the Saint Lucia sprinter turned the tables when it mattered, clocking 10.88 seconds for the win. Richardson eased off well before the line in the knowledge she had been well beaten, eventually finishing eighth in the nine-woman field in 11.23sec.

“I am so happy, it feels amazing to finish my season on a good note and to take the win,” said Alfred.

American star Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone played her cameo to a tee.

The 25-year-old, who improved her own world record when winning back-to-back Olympic 400m hurdles golds in Paris, had not competed at a Diamond League event this season and was therefore ineligible for the finals.

But organizers managed to lure McLaughlin-Levrone, who won a second Olympic gold in Paris with the US 4x400m relay team, to Belgium to race in invitational 200 and 400m flat races as a way to “honor” her Olympic achievements.

She won her 400m race in 49.11sec, which was better than world and Olympic champion Marileidy’s winning time of 49.45sec in the 400m final proper.

Norway’s Jakob Ingebrigtsen held off a strong field for victory in the ever-competitive men’s 1500m in 3min 30.37sec.

The Tokyo Olympic champion missed out on the podium in the French capital, but has been keen to make amends, once again holding off Kenya’s Timothy Cheruiyot and Paris Games winner Cole Hocker.

Ukraine’s Yaroslava Mahuchikh, the world and Olympic champion and world record holder, notched up her eighth consecutive Diamond League win with a best of 1.97m, winning on countback from Australian Nicola Olyslagers.

But there was a rare defeat for Morocco’s Soufiane El Bakkali, the double Olympic gold medalist and two-time world champion, in the men’s 3000m steeplechase.

Kenya’s Amos Serem claimed the win in 8:06.90, with the Moroccan coming in second in 8:08.60.

Jamaica’s Ackeem Blake strode home in the men’s 100m, winning in 9.93sec ahead of Americans Christian Coleman (10.00) and Fred Kerley (10.01), the Olympic bronze medalist and 2022 world champion.

Blake’s teammate Tajay Gayle, the world bronze medalist, won the long jump with a season’s best of 8.28m, Olympic champion Militadis Tentoglou coming in third, 1cm behind Switzerland’s Simon Ehammer (8.16m).

And there was a surprise win for Britain’s Charles Dobson in the men’s 400m, laurels taken in 44.49sec.

American Valarie Allman won the women’s discus with a best of 68.47m and echoed many athletes’ sentiments after a long year of track and field.

“Now it’s off season! I really can’t wait for your fries, waffles and chocolate!”


Tagovailoa urged to retire after latest concussion

Updated 13 September 2024
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Tagovailoa urged to retire after latest concussion

MIAMI: Miami Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa faced calls on Friday to retire from the NFL for his own health after suffering his third documented concussion.
Tagovailoa was taken out of the game in the third quarter after suffering his latest head injury as he dived into a tackle searching for a first down in Thursday’s 31-10 defeat at home to the Buffalo Bills.
The 26-year-old was down on the floor for several minutes after the hit from Bills safety Damar Hamlin but left under his own power, hobbling slightly as he talked to team staff.
The quarterback suffered two concussions — along with other scares — during a 2022 season which threw his future in the game into doubt.
But he played without any noticable issues throughout last season only to see the concerns return in week two of this campaign.
The concern is that with each concussion the risks grow of the kind of serious long term brain problems that have afflicted players in the past.
“That’s it... NFL, go ahead and do the right thing,” retired former Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant wrote on X after the incident.
“Tua has had entirely way too many concussions. He needs to retire for his longevity health concerns,” he added.
Former Denver Broncos tight-end Shannon Sharpe, now a prominent television pundit, agreed that Tagovailoa should call it a day.
“Really hope Tua is ok, but he’s gotta seriously think about shutting it down,” said Sharpe on X.
“I hate saying this. His concussions are getting worse and worse, and he’s a young man with his entire life ahead of him,” he said.
On Friday, Las Vegas Raiders coach Antonio Pierce said if he were the player’s coach he would make it clear that he should quit.
“I’ll be honest, I would tell him to retire. It’s not worth it. It’s not worth it,” he said, noting this was the third such concussion.
“It’s scary, you could see right away the players’ faces on the field, you could see the urgency to get Tua help,” he said.
But Tagovailoa’s actual coach, Mike McDaniel, said it was not the right moment for him to broach the subject of retirement.
“It would be so wrong of me to sniff that subject. It’s more in line with actually caring about the human being. You’re talking about his career. His career is his.... Bringing up his future is not in the best interests of him. I would plead with everyone that generally cares that that should be the last thing on his mind,” he said.
McDaniel said on Thursday, in the immediate aftermath of the injury, that evaluations of the injury and questions over Tagovailoa’s return should be left to medical experts.
Some have questioned whether Tagovailoa was wise to have leaned into the challenge rather than taking the safer option of sliding to avoid contact.
But JJ Watt said he couldn’t blame the quarterback from going as far as he could to make the first down.
“It is a bit of a double-standard in my opinion, everyone wants to see modern-day gladiators but they don’t want the guilt that comes along with it,” he said.